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2020-03-04 19:59:02
LeBron James and Jayson Tatum were just named West and East Player of the Month by the NBA
NBA官方公布2月份东西部最佳球员得主，凯尔特人前锋塔图姆和湖人球星詹姆斯分别当选。
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[–]Raptors Cheechers23 459 指標 10小時前
And so ends Giannis's POTM streak
猛龙球迷：这就终结字母哥的本赛季月最佳三连了。
[–][MIL] Tony Snell ferret50cal 325 指標 9小時前*
For comparison:
Giannis: 28.3/17/6.4 on 62.1 TS%. Bucks went 9-0 in games Giannis played (10-1 overall). (also holy shit 17 boards)
Tatum: 30.7/7.9/3.2 on 63.7 TS%. Celtics went 9-3.
They both had fantastic months. Not super surprised Tatum won, since Giannis had won nearly every ECPOTM since last year so there's gonna be a bit of voter fatigue. (edit: Since the start of the 2018-19 season, Giannis had won 7 of 8 ECPOTM, with Embiid winning January 2019)
雄鹿球迷：对比下：
字母哥上月：场均28.3分17板6.4助，真实命中率62.1%。字母哥出场的比赛9胜0负（整体10胜1负）。
塔图姆上月：场均30.7分7.9板3.2助，真实命中率63.7%。凯尔特人9胜3负。
他俩上个月都打得很好。塔图姆当选也不是很奇怪，毕竟字母哥从去年起基本包揽了这个奖，所以会有点审美疲劳。（编辑：从18/19赛季开始，字母哥已经拿到了前面8个月最佳中的7个，19年1月东部最佳被恩比德拿了）
[–]Spurs SnuggleMuffin42 13 指標 7小時前
31 points on 64 TS% is just insane, Tatum is on fire wtf
马刺球迷：场均31分还能有近64%的真实命中率，这也太厉害了吧，塔图姆真是火力全开
[–]Nets Bigbadbuck 198 指標 9小時前
If it's that close they're gonna give it to the new guy.
篮网球迷：如果两人数据很接近的话，联盟会把奖给新面孔的
[–][MIL] Tony Snell ferret50cal 102 指標 9小時前
Yeah exactly. I'd argue Giannis has a slight edge (points are similar, rebounds and assists quite a bit higher, plus team record), but Tatum is basically the first guy to make it remotely close since last season (Embiid won January, Giannis won every other month). Tatum definitely deserves it.
雄鹿球迷：对的。我觉得字母哥是有点优势的（得分接近，他的篮板和助攻都高不少，还有球队战绩），不过塔图姆基本是从上赛季到现在最为接近字母哥的人。他绝对配得上这个奖。
[–]junkit33 26 指標 9小時前
It's good for the league to hype up young stars. Giannis is going to get the MVP and wins the POTM constantly anyways.
这有助于联盟为年轻球星造势。反正字母哥要拿MVP了，而且月最佳也没少拿。
[–]Warriors TheseMods_NeedJesus 25 指標 7小時前
Lmao it’s not close. Giannis had 10 more boards
勇士球迷：呵呵呵呵，他俩的数据可不算接近。字母哥的篮板多了近10个
[–]Celtics absynthe7 21 指標 8小時前
Tbh, this probably has more to do with voter fatigue than Tatum actually outperforming Giannis. Or maybe people are holding the two games he missed against him.
Like... they play the same position, and Tatum had a great month, but Giannis put up the type of numbers Prime MVP Shaq did. Giannis should've won and it shouldn't be close.
凯尔特人球迷：说真的，这个最佳其实无关塔图姆的表现超出字母哥，而是投票疲劳。要不就是因为字母哥缺席了两场比赛。
这么说吧……他俩的位置是一样的，塔图姆上个月打得非常好，可是字母哥打出了巅峰MVP奥尼尔级别的数据。字母哥是可以当选的，而且他俩的差距也不算小。
[–]Celtics Adam0529 13 指標 8小時前
did schedule strength play part?
Idk how was the Bucks schedule, but Celtics had a tough month and JT performed against the elite of the league
凯尔特人球迷：与赛程强度有关不？
雄鹿的赛程我不清楚，不过凯尔特人上月的比赛不好打得，塔图姆的对手很多都是联盟顶级
[–]HolyGig 3 指標 6小時前
Nobody is claiming Tatum is better lol. If pure stats are the only thing that matters lets just give it to Giannis for the next 5 years and call it a day
也没人说塔图姆上月表现更好啊，哈哈哈。要是只以纯数据为评奖依据的话，那干脆把今后五年的月最佳都给字母哥算了，没得玩了。
[–]Celtics LambdaLambo 48 指標 8小時前
17 rebounds jesus christ. That man terrifies me so much. The Bucks imo are still so slept on, no one talks about them like they're having one of the greatest seasons of all time, despite having one of the greatest seasons of all time. Everyone thinks its wide open but man I just don't think so.
I really hope everyone is right and the Bucks won't be so unstoppable in the playoffs but I just don't see it.
凯尔特人球迷：我的天呐，场均17板！这个男人真是吓到我了。我觉得大家依然没把雄鹿当回事，他们打出了史上最强赛季之一，可是没什么提。人人都觉得争冠局面很开放，可我不这么看
我也希望大家的想法是对的，希望雄鹿到了季后赛没那么无敌，可我真不这么认为。
[–]Celtics BartolosWaterslide 16 指標 8小時前
I think people are sleeping since the bottom of the East is still trash, Giannis is easily MVP though
凯尔特人球迷：我觉得吧，大家之所以不把雄鹿当回事是因为东部垫底的那些对太垃圾了，不过字母哥卫冕MVP是很轻松的。
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[–][HOU] Yao Ming keenan-kun 149 指標 10小時前
grats to tatum, dude deserved it. boston's future is extremely bright with the jays
火箭球迷：祝贺塔图姆，实至名归啊。有双杰（杰森、杰伦）压阵，波士顿未来可期啊
[–]Mavericks PippyLongPooping 30 指標 10小時前
Tatum is so exciting for the future. He recently talked about a confidence shift, which is always the trigger to becoming one of the best
独行侠球迷：塔图姆真的是前途无量。他近期谈到了自己信心的转变，一般这就是步入顶级行列的刺激因子。
[–]West HappyCrabDay[ ] 66 指標 9小時前*
It still amazes me Boston had the foresight to trade away the #1 pick for him. Fultz was considered the clear-cut top draftee at the time, and many considered him a generational talent at the time.
我到现在还是觉得波士顿当初开了天眼一样神奇，居然把状元签送出去换来塔图姆（探花签）。富尔茨当时在那届新秀里可是被看作是天赋明显溢出的顶级新秀的，而且很多人还一度觉得他是划时代的天才。
[–]East danielbauer1375 2 指標 5小時前
I don’t buy that. If Fultz was considered a generational talent, there’s a generational talent in every single draft. The only three generational talents since LeBron, IMO, are Greg Oden, Anthony Davis, and Zion. You could make an argument for Ben Simmons given his size combined with his unique skill set, but that’s it. Plenty of people liked Lonzo more. When it comes to generational talents, they are the clear cut number one pick without any doubt.
这种话我不是不信的。要是富尔茨当时都能被看作是划时代的天才的话，那每届选秀都有一个这种级别的天才。自从老詹之后，我觉得，能称得上划时代天才的只有奥登、戴维斯和锡安。你也可以说西蒙斯，毕竟他的身高和独特的技术摆在那儿，不过也就这了。大多数新秀都是鲍尔那个路子。你要说划时代天才，那他必须得是无可争议的超出同辈一大截的状元郎。
[–]junkit33 62 指標 9小時前
Fultz had a disastrous workout with Boston while Tatum's was legendary. I'm certain Ainge trusts his own evaluation over the scouts.
富尔茨当时在凯尔特人的试训表现堪称灾难，而塔图姆却很好。我觉得，比起球探的眼光，安吉更相信自己的判断。
[–]Celtics iAmTheRealLange 39 指標 8小時前
Ainge was looking at Tatum when he was in high school. He had him high on his board for a while
凯尔特人人球迷：塔图姆高中的时候就被安吉盯上了。他早就进入了安吉的视野。
[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant crucedickinson 7 指標 6小時前
I mean, most people did. Tatum was widely considered to be in contention for the #1 pick in his class when he was in high school. Considered a top prospect coming out.
Still, Ainge clearly knew what he was seeing before others did.
湖人球迷：很多人都是这样。塔图姆还在高中的时候，就被很多人看作是17届新秀中的状元签候选。大家当时就觉得一个顶级新秀呼之欲出。
不过话说回来，安吉的眼光明显是比其他人更毒。
[–]Wizards JohnWalI 27 指標 10小時前*
Was hoping Bradley Beal would get some recognition
11 games averaging 36.2 PPG on 47% shooting smh
奇才球迷：我还以为月最佳会考虑考虑比尔呢。
哎，他上个月11场比赛场均36.2分，命中率47%
[–]Celtics Confirmation__Bias -2 指標 10小時前
Tatum averaged 31/8 on 49% shooting and 48% from 3 and won 9 out of 12 of his games, how many did Beal win?
凯尔特人球迷：塔图姆场均31分8板，命中率49%，三分命中率48%，12场比赛赢了9场，比尔拿啥当选？
[–]blacknerd502 3 指標 6小時前
Bradley Beal gets no love bc his team is so trash
比尔没人爱，因为奇才菜
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[–]erikspoelstra 16 指標 10小時前
Year 17 and the GOAT is still dominating his conference
第十七个赛季，这个史上最佳依然在他的分区打出了统治力
[–]Celtics _dumbSLOTH 241 指標 9小時前
Anyone else surprised Russ didn’t win?
凯尔特人球迷：有人对威少没当选感到奇怪吗？
[–]Rockets sorendiz 112 指標 9小時前
Disappointed but not surprised, I generally expect the worst and am sadly proven right often
火箭球迷：失望，不过不奇怪，我都做好了最坏的准备，可悲的是，结果常常很配合
[–]Celtics nrj6490 29 指標 9小時前
Thought he should’ve taken it
凯尔特人球迷：我以为威少能当选西部月最佳
[–]Clippers tylerjehills 417 指標 10小時前
Russ snubbed hard
凯尔特人球迷：威少被阴惨了
[–]Lakers yungtatha 7 指標 10小時前
I was sorta expecting Westbrook tbh
湖人球迷：说真的，我也以为是威少拿
[–]Celtics Adam0529 15 指標 8小時前
yea he had a phenomenal month.
凯尔特人球迷：对啊，他上月表现是现象级的
[–]h723456 36 指標 10小時前*
I like LeBron but Russ should’ve gotten it.
我喜欢詹姆斯，不过这奖应该是威少的
[–]Mavericks Bestgirlwin 7 指標 7小時前
Yeah. The NBA is really trying to make Lebron MVP this season.
独行侠球迷：是啊，NBA这真是在促成老詹拿下这赛季的MVP啊
[–]Kings andrey1793 32 指標 7小時前
I don’t get why everyone thinks LeBron doesn’t belong in the conversation with Giannis. He has the most drastically positive impact on his team while playing than anyone on the league. By far.
国王球迷：我就搞不懂了，为啥很多人都觉得老詹不能和字母哥争MVP。他对湖人的正面影响力之大超出了其他任何人。
[–]kbthroaway723 15 指標 7小時前
MVP has turned from most valuable to just best stats and storyline. Obviously if we’re looking at only value to team, Lebron is more valuable than Giannis. The Bucks play in the East and would still easily make the playoffs without him.
而且MVP这个奖项已经从最有价值转变成了只注重最佳数据和情怀。很显然，如果我们只看球员对球队的价值的话，老詹的价值比字母哥更高。雄鹿毕竟是在东部，要是没有字母哥，他们也能轻松打进季后赛
[–][HOU] Rafer Alston anupvoteforyou 57 指標 8小時前
LeBron per game in February: 26.0 points (49.7% shooting, 36.0% on 3s), 10.1 assists, 8.1 rebounds, 0.8 steals
Russell Westbrook: 33.4 points (54.9% shooting, 40.0% on 3s), 6.0 assists, 7.3 rebounds, 1.8 steals
Both teams were 9-2, and the Rockets won by double digits at LA.
火箭球迷：詹姆斯二月场均：26分（命中率49.7%，三分命中率36%）10.1助8.1板0.8断
威少二月场均：33.4分（命中率54.9%，三分命中率40%）6助7.3板1.8断
两队战绩都是9胜2负，而且火箭还在湖人主场赢了两位数
[–][TOR] Tracy McGrady acidfalconarrow 37 指標 9小時前
there are people out there who think Bron should have won MVP every year since 2009, so this doesn’t surprise me. dudes consistency is amazing but his name is what puts him over the edge on these kinds of awards
猛龙球迷：有些人觉得自09年后每年的MVP都应该是詹姆斯的，我觉得这种想法很正常，毕竟他的出色异常稳定。可是在评选月最佳这种奖项方面，是他的名字让他占得了先机。
[–][MIA] LeBron James dantew 23 指標 8小時前
How is that pretty hard? I mean you can’t go wrong with either, the face stats look comparable on both, the difference in TS% is 1% in favor of Westbrook, so all around could’ve gone with either one. Acting like this is plain robbery is bs tho.
热火球迷：难道这个月最佳选老詹很难吗？我觉得选谁都没错，两人的纯数据是可以一拼的，威少的真实命中率高出了1%，这是他的优势，所以整体来看的话，这个奖给谁都没毛病。可是有些人还说什么这是赤裸裸的抢劫，这种话纯粹扯淡。
[–]Lakers joerosion 9 指標 8小時前
I don’t follow the Rockets closely, so I can’t tell you about Westbrook with any authority, but let’s keep in mind that these stats don’t really tell the defensive story. Lebron has been excellent in that respect all year long.
湖人球迷：我没咋关注火箭的比赛，所以我也没法评判威少，不过大家得明白一点，这些数据没法真实反映他俩的防守。而在这方面呢，老詹整个赛季都很出色。
[–]Rockets thinkrispys 28 指標 7小時前
Russ led the starters in defensive rating until Covington came along. He's not amazing on defense, but he's doing really well on that end.
And you know, in head to head matchup, Russ wiped the floor with the Lakers and LeBron got stopped.
火箭球迷：在考文顿来我火之前，威少的防守效率值一直都是首发里最高的。他的防守虽然不是很顶级，可是做得其实也很好。
而且你知道的，火箭和湖人正面较量的那场比赛里，湖人和老詹都被限制住了，威少却打得风生水起。
[–]Lakers spyirl 30 指標 7小時前
Russ in February: 267 points, 67 rebounds, 51 assists, 14 steals, 2 blocks, 9 3PM.
Lebron in February: 260 points, 93 rebounds, 101 assists, 10 steals, 4 blocks, 30 3PM.
Both the Lakers and Rockets were 9-2.
湖人球迷：威少二月份数据汇总：267分67板51助14断2冒9三分；
詹姆斯二月份数据汇总：260分93板101助10断4冒30三分。
两队的战绩都是9胜2负
[–]Celtics kanzakisol 45 指標 7小時前
You keep posting totals not realizing that Russ only played 8 games to LeBron's 10 in February. 7-1 Rockets in those games, 8-2 Lakers. That's including a 41pt Russ game in the head to head matchup that the Rockets won.
It's not a highway robbery but I can see why some people are pressed about it. And totals don't really do much to change the context in this case.
凯尔特人球迷：你总是贴这种汇总数据，怕是不知道威少二月只打了8场，而詹姆斯打了10场吧。威少出战的那些比赛火箭7胜1负，湖人则是8胜2负。还包括那场湖火正面交锋中威少拿41分那场，火箭赢球。
詹姆斯得奖也不是非常偏颇，不过我能理解为啥有些人耿耿于怀。而且你列个汇总数据真没啥参考性。
[–]Lakers spyirl 3 指標 5小時前
Oh, so the player who load managed more games should be the player of the month? Westbrook skipped 3 Rockets games in February.
湖人球迷：哦，照你这意思，那个负荷管理更多的人应该当选月最佳？威少二月份缺席了三场火箭的比赛。
[–][HOU] Moochie Norris nonetimeaccount 15 指標 6小時前
Totals are completely useless if the guys didn't play the same amount of games and there's only one reason why you would bring them up...
火箭球迷：要是他俩打得比赛场次都不一样，那汇总数据完全没用，你们提这一点只有一个原因……
[–]Lakers spyirl 5 指標 5小時前
That's the whole point of my post lol. Because you stans are ignoring that Westbrook missed 3 games this month. Lebron is the rightful player of the month.
湖人球迷：这就是我的目的，哈哈哈。因为你们这些粉丝无视威少上个月缺席三场比赛的事实。老詹当选上月最佳合情合理。
[–][HOU] Moochie Norris nonetimeaccount 7 指標 3小時前
LeBron missed a game in Feb too, but again you don't want to make a fair comparison.
You want to talk totals? Let's do that. Russ had 41 when he played the Lakers. What did Bron have?
But really everyone knows totals don't mean shit. That's why the scoring champ is not the guy who scores the most points in a season but the guy that averages the most ppg. But you go ahead and pretend we can change the criteria when it doesn't fit your narrative and act like every other player discussion we ever have is actually doing it wrong when we talk about averages.
火箭球迷：可是詹姆斯上月也缺席了一场比赛啊，不过话说回来了，你压根就不想公平地比较。
你想谈汇总数据？那我奉陪。威少打湖人得了41分？詹姆斯拿了多少？
不过其实大家都知道汇总数据屁也不是。要不然得分王干嘛不算赛季总得分最多而是均分最高呢。可你一看不占理了，就不管这些，觉得我们可以改变标准。
[–][HOU] Tracy McGrady AemonSteelsong 4 指標 8小時前
Russ played the best month of his career since his MVP season and gets snubbed. If you think he didn't play enough games, Harden's played more games, has better stats and better record compared to LeBron. How does LeBron win over BOTH of them?? Media bias is real.
火箭球迷：上个月的威少打出了自他MVP赛季之后最佳的单月表现，结果被无视了。如果你觉得他的参赛场次不够，那我们说哈登啊，他的场次更多，数据也更好，比起老詹的战绩也更好。那詹姆斯是怎么赢过他俩的？媒体真是太偏心了。
[–]Lakers spicy62 6 指標 10小時前
Oh wow I would say im surprised russ didnt win it but the media narrative is still strong with lebron so this is expected. Only way russ and harden will get respect is if they win a title at this point.
湖人球迷：噢，我也为威少没拿奖感到奇怪，不过呢，媒体对老詹还是蛮看重的，所以这个结果也是可预见的。威少和哈登想得到足够的尊重，只有先夺冠再说。
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