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2020-03-06 19:34:50
Lebron James since the All-Star break: 29.3/7.7/9.8 on 56.7/39.5/73.5 shooting splits.
勒布朗-詹姆斯在全明星休赛期之后：场均29.3分7.7板9.8助，三项命中率分别为56.7%、39.5%和73.5%
Playoff Lebron is ramping up. The most insane part is he's shooting 7.2 3's per game during this stretch. Could be trying to make a late MVP push. Don't know if it will work but he's playing great regardless.
季后詹正缓缓出现。最不可思议的是，他在此期间场均出手7.2个三分。他能为了MVP做最后一把冲刺吗？能不能行不得而知，不过不管怎样，他目前的表现是顶级的。
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[–]Warriors Deusselkerr 145 指標 7小時前
I know it's been said before but I just can't wait to see how the next 3-5 years go. When will a drop off happen? Will it be incremental or all at once? How long is MVP Lebron going to be here? Until 40? 45? Can you imagine if ten years from now he's still a starting caliber player?
勇士球迷：我知道这是老生常谈了，不过我就是迫不及待地想看看未来3到5年的老詹。他什么时候才会状态下跌呢？是缓缓下滑还是一泻千里呢？
MVP级别的詹姆斯还能持续多久？能打到40？甚至是45？如果十年后他依然保持NBA首发的水准，你敢想象吗？
[–]Knicks KDL2000 6 指標 3小時前
LeBrons been “slowing” down for years now. Back in 2012-2013 he was arguably the greatest player of all time. LeBron used to be a no brainer for MVP but now he’s “not even considered” MVP for some fans. LeBrons longevity is arguably the greatest in sports.
尼克斯球迷：老詹这些年一直是在缓缓“下滑”的。你再回看12/13年，当时的他差不多算是历史最强了。老詹以前拿MVP是小菜一碟，现在呢，在某些球迷眼里，他甚至都不在MVP考虑范围之列。詹姆斯的生涯寿命在体育史上算是最强的了
[–]SockEmBopperCTE 14 指標 7小時前
Lebron will be 50 putting up Lonzo numbers
50岁的老詹应该能打出鲍尔级别的数据
[–]1128327 8 指標 1小時前
His basketball IQ seems to be increasing faster than his body is declining. It has been ridiculous to watch at times this season - he sees several moves ahead like a chess player.
他的球商增长速度超过了身体下滑速度。有时候看着真觉得离谱——他像下棋一样能提前好几步识破对手的动作
[–][LAL] Chucky Atkins Goop1995 3 指標 1小時前
Thats the thing with Lebron, even if he isnt the same athletically hes just on a different universe bbiq wise.
He could legit just become a pf and play in the post when hes 40 and still put up 20/7/10
湖人球迷：这就是詹姆斯的特别之处，哪怕他的身体素质不复当年，可他的球商依然在另一个层面。
等到40岁的时候，他其实可以直接挪到大前锋位置打低位，依然能拿到20分7板10助。
[–]Wizards CoachKoranGodwin 10 指標 5小時前
I think he can still average 9-10 assists for a few more years. Especially if they put him alongside younger stars.
奇才球迷：我觉得他这种场均9到10次的助攻还能延续好几年。要是你让他和年轻球星搭档，那就更是如此。
[–]Warriors Deusselkerr 3 指標 5小時前
I agree, I think we'll see a steady decline in scoring and rebounding as he becomes more and more of a pass-first point-forward who needs to conserve more and more energy. I could see him averaging fourth-option starter PG numbers past 40. Say, 12/4/7. After that, who knows. I doubt he'll ever want to be a bench player so it'll depend on how long he can continue to be a positive offensive asset and a not-garbage defender.
勇士球迷：我同意。我觉得他往后会越来越往传球至上型的控卫方向发展，这样一来他的消耗就越来越少，而他的得分和篮板就会慢慢下降。我觉得他过了40之后的场均数据类似于一个第四选择的首发，比如12分4板7助。在这之后，谁知道呢！我觉得他就没想过打替补，所以他能打多久就得取决于他对球队进攻的正面影响能延续多久，以及他的防守。
[–]Pistons rando1817 6 指標 4小時前
I mean it will happen eventually but in five years he will still be a top 20 player imo
活塞球迷：他总有一天会退役的，不过我觉得在往后五年，他依然会是联盟前20的球员
[–]Lakers swallowedbymonsters -1 指標 4小時前
Highly doubtful at 40
湖人球迷：你要说他打到40还是联盟前20的话，我表示很怀疑
[–]Cavaliers T-Nan 6 指標 3小時前
I want to agree with you but until he has a decent drop off, I can't.
I know people will say "he's not as athletic" etc but somehow he's still a top tier player
骑士球迷：我也想认同你，不过在他出现明显下滑之前，我不能认同。
大家以后肯定会说“他的运动能力没那么强了”之类的，我能理解，不过他依然会是个顶级球员。
[–]Lakers ianban 146 指標 6小時前*
Jordan averaged 23/5/5 at 38 when he came back after retiring and not playing for 3 years. I think it's reasonable to estimate that, provided his health holds up, LeBron could post 20/5/5+ for 4 more seasons (the last being when he's 38/39).
LeBron is just a different breed of player. Here's a reference point of how crazy LeBron is: lots of people are cheering Westbrook for his amazing play this season. He's posting 27/7/7 with 1.5 steals and 0.3 blocks on a 47/25/78 split. LeBron's 17-year-career average is 27/7/7 with 1.6 steals and 0.8 blocks on a 50/34/74 split.
湖人球迷：乔丹退役之后再复出打了不到3年，依然能有23分5板5助的场均啊。假如老詹的健康没问题，他场均20分5助5板的数据还能延续四个赛季（最后一年他就该38、39了），我觉得这种估计是很合理的。
老詹这种球员就是与众不同的。以下数据可供参考：很多人都在为这赛季表现出色的威少欢呼雀跃。他场均27分7助7板1.5断0.3帽，三项命中率分别为47%、25%和78%。可是詹姆斯17年职业生涯一直如此，场均27分7板7助1.6断0.8帽，三项命中率分别为50%、34%和74%。
[–]Mollster45 47 指標 5小時前
While I don't doubt LeBron can(and probably will) be able to do that, LeBron has already played 243 more games in his career so far than Jordan did.
詹姆斯还能（也会）打很久这点我是不怀疑的，毕竟他现在已经比乔丹整个职业生涯多打了243场比赛
[–]HostilesAhead_BF-05 2 指標 1小時前
And he’s leading the league in assists. And his post game is just as good. I don’t believe things slow down quickly.
而且他还是联盟的助攻王。他的低位技术依然强劲。你要说他的衰退期很快到来的话，那我是不信的。
[–]Skywalker3030 47 指標 5小時前
Westbrook is averaging those numbers this season in one of the easiest eras to put up huge numbers too
LeBron played most of his career with a super slow pace and a lack of spacing
而且威少的这赛季的亮眼场均还是在如今这种容易得分的年代取得的。
詹姆斯职业生涯大部分时间都处于一个节奏超低且缺乏空间的年代。
[–]2018-19 Over/Unders Top 10VeGanbarimasu 7 指標 2小時前
Is it still most? As he goes longer and longer the original Cleveland days drift further and further away. At this point, he's spent the last 6 years on "modern" NBA offenses (LA, Cleveland #2), and depending on what you call Miami, he's either spent most of his career on modernish NBA offenses or he's spent about 1/3.
确定是大部分时间？随着他职业生涯的深入，最初的克利夫兰岁月也是越走越远了。截止到目前，他有6个赛季都是在“现代”NBA（湖人时期、骑士二期），而且还得看你怎么定义迈阿密时期，要是么职业生涯大部分时间都在现代NBA，要么是三分之一的时间。
[–]did_it_my_way [分數隱藏] 16 分鐘前
Eh Miami days doesn't really count as 'modern' offense in this context though, does it? We still had traditional big men like Howard, Noah, Marc Gasol, Hibbert, and so on thriving... and spacing wasn't as gracious like today.
呃，他在迈阿密那会儿真心算不上“现代”NBA的进攻，对不？当时还有霍华德、诺阿、小加索尔、希伯特这些传统内线……而且当时的进攻空间也远不如今天。
[–]Boss Time505 380 指標 10小時前
Everyone always says appreciate them while they are here/playing. The stuff Lebron is doing at his age with all the playoff experience is incredible. But since its a regular thing of him being so great people are gonna say we are Lebron stans. Some are Lebron stans.Put pointing out his stats are justified. Look at everyone else from his draft class and see how they aged compared with him. He is a cyborg
我们总是说，趁着这些球员还在打球的时候好好珍惜。詹姆斯这个年纪所取得的表现，以及他那些季后赛经验，是让人难以置信的。可是自打他的伟大成为一种常态之后，有些人就说我们是老詹死忠，所以才觉得他的可贵。其实他的死忠粉只有那一部分。罗列出他的这些数据是很合理的。看看与他同届的那批新秀如今身在何方，再拿他们和老詹比比你就知道了。詹姆斯就是人和机器的混搭。
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[–]Knicks UnableComb 46 指標 10小時前
We literally had a "LeBron since all star break" thread yesterday lol. Probably the day before too.
尼克斯球迷：昨天还真有个“全明星之后的詹姆斯”的帖子，哈哈哈。也许是前天吧
[–][HOU] Chris Paul Nuggetsbecrispy 14 指標 9小時前
"Lebron James is continuing to put up statlines near his career averages"
火箭球迷：“詹姆斯仍然能贡献出接近生涯平均值的数据。”
[–]Heat DydoDeChamp[S] 12 指標 7小時前
Literally everyone of those stats are notably above his career averages except his Ft%
热火球迷：詹姆斯目前的数据几乎每一项都在生涯平均之上，除了罚球
[–][HOU] Chris Paul Nuggetsbecrispy 1 指標 6小時前
He's averaging 2 more points and 2.5 more assists than his career averages with a better 3PT%
火箭球迷：他现在的场均得分比生涯平均值高2分，助攻多2.5个，三分命中率也更高。
[–]Raptors daydreamin511 5 指標 5小時前
This man just entered his 5th prime
猛龙球迷：这个男人刚进入第五个巅峰期
[–]Lakers 9D_Chess 89 指標 7小時前
It's hilarious that he's hitting 56% FG and almost 40% 3fg but still can't break 75% on free throws. He should just start Rick Barry'ing his Free Throws and he'll be fucking unstoppable in the clutch
最逗的是他的命中率56%、三分命中率将近40%，可是罚球命中率依然无法超过75%。他干脆学学里克-巴里的发球姿势（端尿盆）算了，那样的话，他尼玛在关键时刻就无敌了。
[–]Lakers NotBrokeJustBent23 15 指標 10小時前
Probably won’t happen honestly
湖人球迷：这也许看不到了
[–]osap-rocky 111 指標 10小時前
How likely is it that he overtakes Davis as their leading scorer? They've been trending closer and closer in PPG throughout the season. I don't think it'll happen personally.
老詹超越戴维斯成为湖人队内得分王的可能性有多大？他俩的场均得分越来越接近了。不过我觉得他还是超不了戴维斯。
[–]Lakers keepon18 98 指標 10小時前
Only if AD misses some time and LeBron has to score more imo
湖人球迷：除非戴维斯缺席一段时间，并且老詹还得提高得分
[–]NBA Mike_Soulshock 47 指標 10小時前
Not very likely since LBJ doesn't really seem to care that he'll be 2nd best scorer on his team for the first time in his career - nor should he as long as they're winning, which they obviously are.
可能性不是很大了，因为老詹好像是真不在乎自己生涯首次成为队内第二得分手。他也不应该在乎，只要球队赢球就好。
[–]jankemisgoodbruv 8 指標 4小時前
I feel like Lebron might average more points in the play offs.
我感觉老詹到了季后赛的均分或许还会更高
[–]Lakers markmyredd 13 指標 3小時前
definitely. He is barely attacking on some of the games this season. He does some lazy no look passes early in the shot clock instead of driving and putting the pressure on the defense.
Just 2 to 4 drives more per game will add 4 points to his PPG.
湖人球迷：肯定的。他这赛季有些场次都没什么攻击性。很多进攻回合都是早早随意来一记不看人传球，而不是杀篮下对对方防线施压。
他每场比赛只需要增加2到4次突破，均分就能增加4分。
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[–]Best Versi0n0fMyself 106 指標 10小時前
I wanna see him as MVP.
我想看他拿MVP
[–]kobmug_v2 134 指標 10小時前
Friday's game could pull the Lakers within 3 losses of them.
明天的比赛湖人有机会把与雄鹿的差距缩小到3个胜场以内。
[–]Lakers caughtinthought 39 指標 7小時前
The Lakers have a really rough stretch over the next week though. Bucks, Clips, Rockets, Nuggs.. yikes
湖人球迷：不过接下来一个星期，我湖的赛程真心很艰难。雄鹿、快船、火箭、掘金……
[–]Lakers markmyredd 4 指標 3小時前
do we get the bucks first? if we win against the bucks I can see Bron going after the 1st seed and not mail in the other games.
湖人球迷：最先打雄鹿吧？如果我们赢了，那我觉得老詹就会全力冲击联盟第一的战绩，其他比赛也会全力以赴。
[–]NBA butidktho_ 3 指標 7小時前
if he plays how he’s been since all star over that next stretch he might make the MVP convo interesting.
如果詹姆斯接下来这一波表现能和全明星之后的表现一样，那他也许能让MVP的竞争妙趣横生。
[–]Lakers godfrey1 9 指標 5小時前
and i hope he don't, being rested for playoffs is more important
湖人球迷：我希望他不要太卖力，为季后赛蓄体力更加重要
[–]NBA butidktho_ 4 指標 4小時前
can’t argue with that
没毛病
[–]NBA [Matthew Dellavedova]Machine GunDellly 26 指標 8小時前
it bothers me that the award is almost exclusively for the best team record. Would be cool to see LeBron win another one.
我很不爽的就是，MVP往往是联盟最佳战绩球队的专属。要是老詹再拿一次MVP那就带劲儿了
[–]WildYams 60 指標 7小時前
Also, given how great the Bucks have looked even without Giannis, as compared to how bad the Lakers have looked without LeBron, it's tough for me to argue that Giannis has been "more valuable" to his team's success this year than LeBron has been.
再说了，雄鹿没有字母哥的时候感觉也很强，再比比没有詹姆斯的湖人有多菜。那你还怎么好意思说字母哥这赛季对于自己球队所取得成绩的贡献比詹姆斯“更宝贵”呢？
[–]Sock EmBopperCTE 20 指標 7小時前
The qualifications are completely random. Its just whoever is good for the media that year.
MVP的资格评定完全是很随意的。就看那个赛季谁对媒体有益就行了
[–]Wild Yams 8 指標 7小時前
Yep, it's a narrative-based award more than anything.
对的，这个奖项最看重的是舆论。
[–]Bulls azur08 3 指標 4小時前
That's how it usually goes. Warriors were good without Steph. Rockets where pretty good without Harden. Bucks are pretty good without Giannis.
The Cavs and Lakers have never been good without Lebron playing (when he's on the team, of course).
公牛球迷：历年如此啊。当年的勇士没有库里也很厉害，那年火箭没有哈登也很强，就像如今没有字母哥的雄鹿也很有实力一样。
可当初的骑士和现在的湖人要是没有詹姆斯，就没厉害过。
[–]Warriors TheUnibrow [分數隱藏] 36 分鐘前
I consider MVP the Player of the Year award. Not “most valuable to their own team than anyone else is to theirs” award because some jackass used that mindset to give Melo a vote over LeBron, preventing LeBron from being a unanimous MVP.
勇士球迷：我把MVP看作是年度最佳球员。不是“对自己球队价值超过联盟任何人”的奖项，因为当年某个蠢蛋就是根据这种思路把MVP首选票给了安东尼，导致詹姆斯没能实现全票MVP（12/13赛季）。
[–]Celtics absynthe7 12 指標 4小時前*
Really? We're gonna pretend that Giannis is the frontrunner because of the Bucks' record? Not because averaging 30/14/6 while being a top-3 defensive player over an entire season is one of the most dominant stretches any player has ever had in the history of the sport?
If Giannis played in New York, we'd be debating whether Peak Giannis is better than Peak Shaq was.
凯尔特人球迷：真要这样嘛？难道大家真觉得字母哥只是因为雄鹿的战绩才能领跑MVP争夺？而不是因为他场均30分14板6助且整个赛季都是联盟前三防守人？这可是联盟史上最具统治力的表现之一啊
如果字母哥是在纽约打球的话，咱们甚至都能为巅峰期字母哥是否比巅峰期奥尼尔更强而展开争论
[–]Lakers Benfelz 0 指標 2小時前
I honestly think peak Giannis > peak Shaq. I don’t know why no one is debating it
湖人球迷：我真心觉得巅峰字母哥比巅峰奥尼尔强。不知道为啥没人讨论这个
[–]Lakers swallowedbymonsters 1 指標 4小時前
It bothers me that people think the award should go to the player they like most. Bron has zero case over Giannis
湖人球迷：有些人总觉得MVP应该给他们最喜欢的球员，烦得要死。詹姆斯压根就没有力压字母哥拿MVP的资本。
[–]Lakers Benfelz 3 指標 2小時前
Giannis deserves the award, and he should 100% get it over LeBron, but to say LeBron has no case is dumb
湖人球迷：字母哥拿奖实至名归，100%应该在老詹身前拿下这个MVP，可你要说老詹完全没资本那就是蠢。
[–]Lakers swallowedbymonsters 1 指標 1小時前
He has no case. He is not having a better individual season, not having more team success, and is playing with a top 5 player in the league. The only case he has is narrative based aka his stans just want it to happen with zero justification.
湖人球迷：他就是没资本啊。他的个人表现不如字母哥，球队战绩也比不上，而且身边还有个联盟前五的队友。他唯一的资本就是舆论基础，也就是他的死忠粉想不顾公道地让老詹拿MVP。
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[–]Trail Blazers ImAntonioBrown -18 指標 10 小時前*
media already decided to gift wrap the mvp for giannis before the season started, atleast its safe to know giannis will never be as good as lebron..
开拓者球迷：赛季还没开始的时候，那些媒体就已经决定把MVP打包装好送给字母哥了。不过咱们现在至少可以说，字母哥以后肯定到不了詹姆斯这个高度……
[–][GSW] Stephen Curry sdpc7 8 指標 9 小時前
Giannis gifted that shit to himself by playing significantly better than anyone else this year, stop it
勇士球迷：闭嘴吧，那是字母哥通过这赛季远超于其他任何人的优异表现打包带走MVP的。
[–]Lakers LukaDoncicLakers2024 33 指標 10 小時前
Giannis is averagin 30/14/6 with the best record in the league lol. how the fuck is that giftwrapped
湖人球迷：字母哥场均30分14板6助，而且坐拥联盟最强战绩，哈哈哈。这特么哪来的媒体给他打包装好？
[–]Bulls _Flashpoint_ 9 指標 9 小時前
He's not wrong in the media did have him as the favorite. But he's completely if not more than earned it.
公牛球迷：赛季开始前，媒体确实把字母哥看作是MVP大热，这又不是字母哥的错。不过他用实力证明了这种认可。
[–]Boss Time505 12 指標 9 小時前
Just Because he was predicted as MVP coming into the year I still dont believe it was gift wrapped. No one expected MIL to be THIS good. So even if they had him predicted like u said he has surpassed all expectations ( to this point)
人们当时只是预测他会拿MVP而已，我觉得这不算是帮他打包带走吧。当时没人能预测到雄鹿这赛季的表现会有这么好。所以即便当初他们预测他能拿奖，他现在的表现也超过了所有人的预期。
[–]Heat Junkyodar 13 指標 9 小時前
Tbf you could argue that they only have a better record because they're constantly facing the bottom eastern teams all the time. If you compare bottom west to bottom east there's a pretty stark difference. Where's if it was swapped the Bucks may have been upset a few more times.
热火球迷：说真的，要针对字母哥的话，你只能这么说：雄鹿战绩比湖人好的唯一原因就是他们老是面对那些东部垫底球队。如果拿东部西部的垫底队伍比比，就会发现差距还是相当大的。如果互相换个分区，也许雄鹿会被爆冷好几场。
[–][TOR] Delon Wright DelonWright -34 指標 10 小時前
I hate seeing Lebron do well
猛龙球迷：我讨厌看到詹姆斯这么好的表现
[–]Kali1437 31 指標 10 小時前
Haters gonna hate.
喷子一直都在
[–][TOR] Delon Wright DelonWright 8 指標 10 小時前
Uh yeah that’s clearly exactly what I’m doing
猛龙球迷：可不，这就是我
[–]Lakers chipshead90 22 指標 10 小時前
Life so sad that you hate on others
湖人球迷：你的生活真可悲
[–]Johnnydayy 31 指標 10 小時前
He got donkey dad dicked by bron in the playoffs lol for like 5 straight years.
毕竟他们连着五个赛季在季后赛被老詹像老子打儿子一样教训。
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编译：云长刮个痧
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